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Aug 21 2008, 07:04 PM
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Nitrous Oxide Group: Active Members Posts: 582 Joined: 13-August 05 From: new port richey, florida Member No.: 1,911 Tiburon Year: Please Select Gender: Please Select
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" this saturday night, i got a call my from my freind to bring him a jack to fix his car and to come out to watch some races. i decided against better judgement and pulled up to the street races to park to meet 2 of my friends
As i was trying to park my truck Some drunk *** guy setting the cars off, didn't look, and dropped his hands while i was in the road. a racing dodge neon srt 4 smashed into my dodge ram 2500 diesel going very fast. i was parking and trying to get in a tight spot. Then a group of Puerto ricans told me it was my fault for the street racing srt-4 being wrecked and beat me to a pulp till i was bleeding everywhere, and i remember a girl jumping on top of me stopping them from beating me up. I cant remember anything until I woke up in my truck with someone i didn't know driving it telling me that "dont do anything stupid because they WILL kill you and your family" because they have your information. And that It was his brothers Car who hit my truck. and Id better pay for it and not pull any **** or they will kill me. With one car following from the back they took me to the HESS Gas Station in Disney World, and made me clean up where i mouthed to the cashier to call 911. they did and the cop came, but never came close enough for me to be safe to run over to him and it was to early to get the driver of the neon and the guys holding me hostage. i kept calling 911 from my cell phone in my back pocket and managed to whisper"hostage" to the 911 operator while they were talking in spanish from car to car. after that i kept the phone in my pocket so the 911 could listen to everything. they were going to take me somewhere to make sure i wouldn't leave till i payed for the neon and or they got money or collaterall from me, and i dont know how bad they were gonna beat me up. they told me "call your friend bro because after we meet you aint driving your truck home and your going to need a ride because you wont be able to drive" He told me to tell my friend to come to the "Area" so he could pick me up later, but not the exact spot we were meeting, because it was secret. I pretended to talk to my friend on the phone but i was with 911 and they didn't know. they kept asking me what vehicle i was in and i would say things like "yeah bro i told you im not driving my black truck im driving my green dodge" i was told to tell him to come to the "area" so I said where are we and he said 2 street names which i procedeed to tell 911 two street names. They ask "Are You at that location now sir?" and i say "yeah dude" and then we saw an officer and i said on the phone "oh **** there is an osceola cop he might pull us over I got to go, then the 911 operrator says "WAIT sir, are you in a GREEN TRUCK, and i say, yeah and hang up. we get followed for a minute then pulled over by that cop, and then out of nowhere: 45 seconds later there is a helicopter and 30 cop cars in front and behind me and a cop is holding a gun to the driver door and screaming at the driver "GET THE **** ON THE GROUND NOW" and he is freaking out putting his cellphoneo and keys on the roof. my door is smashed from the crash somehow and it doesnt open so he climbs through the window and falls to the ground where they hand cuff him and then get me out and take me to the ambulance. right after, the boys in the neon try calling 911 saying that i backed into him and a bunch of ****. but the cops knew the real story and after i get released from the hospital, i go to the scenes, and identify all of the people involved and the 4 of them get arrested for 3 or 4 felony's each since the Orange county police department was able to find this video on streetfire through a friend of mine: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/D...ion_176266.htm *note the neon in the pic is just showing significance of the damage. (link towards bottom) Id like to thank the osceola county sheriffs office for saving my *** in this horrible situation that i came into. Im sure there is someone on here that knows these people and will try and find me. But thats the price I have to pay now for going out to these stupid events, even when i was trying to help someone with there car. " - unknown orlando resident don't believe it? take a look! THIS DID NOT HAPPEN TO ME-... though it could've happened to anyone. i found this over on floridatibs.com where lots of folks do street-race on that site-... i just thought this should be a sticky-... for safety purposes! |
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Aug 21 2008, 07:14 PM
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Reposting RD Lover Group: Validating Posts: 1,706 Joined: 25-August 04 Member No.: 374 Tiburon Year: None Gender: Male
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Gotta love dumb people.
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Aug 21 2008, 08:41 PM
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"Living the Dream" Group: Active Members Posts: 3,591 Joined: 12-September 05 From: Pax River, MD Member No.: 2,019 Tiburon Year: 2000 Gender: Male
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wow at first i thought it was you...
yeah people are freaking retarded... i just glad the stupid got caught and charge with what they did |
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Aug 22 2008, 08:39 AM
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More bounce to da ounce. Group: Active Members Posts: 2,897 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 2,687 Tiburon Year: 2001 |
that guy is retarded, that would NEVER happen here; someone would have gotten shot as we have carry concealed here in my country and i would have just dumped on em. i dont play when it comes to my car and i WILL shoot someone if they try to mess with it or myself. i assumed all places were like that only you arent allowed to have guns everywhere else so when you shoot people you would have to sit in jail for awhile.
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Aug 22 2008, 08:46 AM
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radu_rd3 Group: Active Members Posts: 1,625 Joined: 31-January 07 From: Cambridge, MA Member No.: 4,654 Tiburon Year: 2000 Gender: Male
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^ who is retarded? The guy who was beat up and taken away before he could even figure out what happened?? Are you high?
Plus so what if YOU have a gun? Does that mean everybody else (in your area) carries one ALL the time? If yes, I'll remember never to visit lol Secondly, if everybody had a gun, and you were in that guy's position, don't you think that if you'd start shooting them they would shoot you back? This post has been edited by radu_rd2: Aug 22 2008, 08:50 AM |
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Aug 22 2008, 09:21 AM
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OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake America! Group: Premier Members Posts: 31,527 Joined: 2-August 03 From: Los Lunas, NM Member No.: 4 Tiburon Year: 2001 Gender: Male
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that guy is retarded, that would NEVER happen here; someone would have gotten shot as we have carry concealed here in my country and i would have just dumped on em. i dont play when it comes to my car and i WILL shoot someone if they try to mess with it or myself. i assumed all places were like that only you arent allowed to have guns everywhere else so when you shoot people you would have to sit in jail for awhile. ... Uhm, yes, the US has concealed carry. Steve01 is ALSO in the USA. And no, no matter what country you live in with concealed carry, it doesn't give you the right to shoot someone because they messed with your car. You need to go re-read the laws in "your country" about it, if your life is in jeopardy, yes, if your car is getting keyed, NO. Do you have a concealed carry permit Optimo? |
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Aug 22 2008, 11:38 AM
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Sailed the 7 roads. Group: Premier Members Posts: 498 Joined: 13-September 07 From: The Plains, VA - Northern VA Member No.: 7,382 Tiburon Year: 2001 Gender: Male
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damn man, I read the whole thing thinking it was you. I couldn't imagine man, the video shows it all tho, 3 great reasons not to go street racing.
Keep it on the Track fellas! |
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Aug 22 2008, 11:48 AM
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"Living the Dream" Group: Active Members Posts: 3,591 Joined: 12-September 05 From: Pax River, MD Member No.: 2,019 Tiburon Year: 2000 Gender: Male
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street racing is illegal so if something happen to your car, you should not get upset cause of the fact you made a stupid decision...
that why i dont have a gun and will not own one cause of the fact i know my temper and if something pissed me off i will be shooting and i have a family to take care of and can't do that in jail or on death row... just something to think about "Don't put yourself in horrible situations inwhich you know is stupid and wrong" |
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Aug 22 2008, 11:59 AM
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BANNED! Thank GOD! Group: Banned Posts: 1 Joined: 13-June 06 Member No.: 3,044 Tiburon Year: None Gender: Male
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wow.. thats nuts... stupid ass street racers.. i wish more of them would wreck there cars..
i seriously don't know how a group THAT big doesn't get caught.. seriously, how the hell do you have like 100+ people and 60+ cars racing, and no cops catch em. you think the 5-0 would hang around forums and stuff looking for this kind of stuff. and i love how the guy got kidnapped cuz some dumb f*** street racing wrecked his car. such bullshit. |
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Aug 22 2008, 12:09 PM
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More bounce to da ounce. Group: Active Members Posts: 2,897 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 2,687 Tiburon Year: 2001 |
REDZ - believe i'll have something. i live in a pretty big city and it dosent hurt to have a buddy by your side.
if i believe that me or my property is at risk you better believe i'll be letting a few rounds off... at least in the air but never a kill shot over the car. thats what insurance is for! if i cant bare arms to protect myself and my property then what the hell do i want to bear arms at all for?? |
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Aug 22 2008, 01:23 PM
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Nitrous Oxide Group: Active Members Posts: 545 Joined: 22-September 06 From: Elkhart, IN Member No.: 3,510 Tiburon Year: 1999 Gender: Male
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I feel ashamed....
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Aug 22 2008, 03:03 PM
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More bounce to da ounce. Group: Active Members Posts: 2,897 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 2,687 Tiburon Year: 2001 |
im gonna call bullshit on the whole story after reading it.
if your going out to the races to meet your friend, then that means at least 1 person you knew was there. what the hell kind of friend would let someone kindnap you?? and most likely if you knew one person there you would have known a couple of people. so is this person saying that a crowd of people who were watching the race (people he knew were there because he was going to see at least one) and not 1 person said anything about the wreck. NOT ONLY THAT but they didnt say anything when ol boy got kidnaped?? that story is bullshit and just not reasonable. i dont know everyone who street races around my city but i know alot of people and alot of people know me or my car. i just dont see NOONE saying anything about you getting beat up like that or say anything about you getting kidnaped. |
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Aug 22 2008, 03:15 PM
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Stock Group: Active Members Posts: 168 Joined: 19-October 05 From: Philippines Member No.: 2,195 Tiburon Year: 1997 |
wow im glad those rats got arrested, assuming this was true
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Aug 22 2008, 07:17 PM
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Nitrous Oxide Group: Active Members Posts: 582 Joined: 13-August 05 From: new port richey, florida Member No.: 1,911 Tiburon Year: Please Select Gender: Please Select
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im gonna call bullshit on the whole story after reading it. if your going out to the races to meet your friend, then that means at least 1 person you knew was there. what the hell kind of friend would let someone kindnap you?? and most likely if you knew one person there you would have known a couple of people. so is this person saying that a crowd of people who were watching the race (people he knew were there because he was going to see at least one) and not 1 person said anything about the wreck. NOT ONLY THAT but they didnt say anything when ol boy got kidnaped?? that story is bullshit and just not reasonable. i dont know everyone who street races around my city but i know alot of people and alot of people know me or my car. i just dont see NOONE saying anything about you getting beat up like that or say anything about you getting kidnaped. florida news station-... think about it-... maybe his friend got scared like everyone else leaving the scene while the gun shot rang out. when there are that many people there against a group of 4 (1 of which already was knocked un-consious) they'd be out numbered and would be left w/ the option to fight or flee-... the best decision would be to flee for help. and who's to say that the truck didn't get to the street races before his friend? socks- cops here know where everybody meets up and stands watch to make sure nobody does anything stupid. but there are quite a few who will discuss a spot @ a meet then later join there to race till whenever-... i'm sure that was the case here. red z man- it's 01steve not steve01 |
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Aug 22 2008, 08:12 PM
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OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake America! Group: Premier Members Posts: 31,527 Joined: 2-August 03 From: Los Lunas, NM Member No.: 4 Tiburon Year: 2001 Gender: Male
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Steve01 it's RED ZMAN, not red z man.
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Aug 22 2008, 09:11 PM
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Welder by trade, Tiburon owner by choice Group: Super Moderators Posts: 2,606 Joined: 20-February 07 From: 39°12'35"N 96°18'47"W Member No.: 4,946 Tiburon Year: 2001 Gender: Male
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Optimo, chew on this one a bit...
popping off shots in the air to scare someone near you does still have the ability to kill someone that wasnt even involved in a situation you have with someone else up to 1/2 mile away in some circumstances pertaining to angles and caliber size. If you own a handgun and that was bought in your state, more than likely it is on some type of state registry with a picture showing the rifling marks on a spent slug. if you sent a bullet in the air, it came down and killed someone, they trace it to you via the state registry, you will be held responsible for murder, simple as that. Even though I am a archery tackle hunter by heart, I am still a NRA member cause until the day I die will stand up for the right to bear arms as our founding fathers gave us in the constitution. I own shotguns, handguns, rifles, but I will never pull them out in any aspect that involves anger, it never leads to anything good. A statement like you just posted is exactly what burns the fuel for the anti-gun coalition. To me, it basically says to me you are not old enough to understand FULLY, the rammifications of actually firing a handgun in a populated area. I'm a father of two boys, what would happen if a stray bullet was shot in the air from you gun and killed one of my sons? To me, if you live in a area where you have to carry a handgun in order to protect you or your family, you need to move or stay out of that area, simple as that. |
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Aug 23 2008, 04:05 AM
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Ruiner of the shoutbox, i envy redzman Group: Active Members Posts: 611 Joined: 15-July 07 From: Drums Pennsylvania Member No.: 6,267 Tiburon Year: 2000 Gender: Male
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Man I also thought that it was you untill the end. That sucks
I would have got in my truck and drove away as soon as it looked like it was going that bad. If they didn't move oh well too bad for them. I have a few friends that can or do carry guns with them. I would never because I think it causes more trouble than anything. Although I do respect the right of people to protect themselves and loved ones in their home or on their property. I do not carry a gun but I do have a nice heavy steel bar with me in the car. |
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Aug 23 2008, 10:39 AM
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More bounce to da ounce. Group: Active Members Posts: 2,897 Joined: 14-March 06 From: Columbus, Ohio Member No.: 2,687 Tiburon Year: 2001 |
ursons - well when you live in the city you gotta be prepared for anything. just the other day a friend of mine went to a hood where he had beef on the west side and someone ended up running a huge 70's lincon into his car when he tried to run away from situation. then people came with bats and finished smashing his car.
moving isnt an option and staying away isnt an option now typically someone would have gotten shot in that situation but i happend to know the other people so they didnt but, you dont allways have the choice about where you live or the people in the area. best thing you can do is be prepared and be on your toes. me and my friend get in fights all the time where we are outnumbered, i would tell you odds but you would say we were lying. but point is; if any of my friends EVER let me get kidnaped while i was with them.........man when i got free it wouldnt be good for them. (and i say that because i have been kidnaped before when i worked at pornstore in the hood.) funny story because my boy who got me the job was there before the police came. i could only image that the guy who got kidnaped was a frail suburb guy who went racing in a hood part of town and ended up getting frailed out, in a part of town he shouldnt have been in. maybe i'm specualtion but thats how it sounds, hell untill you guys came with the news story i thought it was bullshit. that kind of thing wouldnt ever happen here. |
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Aug 23 2008, 12:10 PM
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OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake America! Group: Premier Members Posts: 31,527 Joined: 2-August 03 From: Los Lunas, NM Member No.: 4 Tiburon Year: 2001 Gender: Male
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^^^
How old are you? Moving is ALWAYS an option, staying away is ALWAYS an option. When it comes down to the safety of life and limb, every plug can be pulled and you can get away. Kinda nice living in a free society. I ask how old you are, because you sound like a angst ridden 19 year old trying to be tough. I've met and known enough of them in my days, and have seen enough of them get killed in the gang fights and stupid decisions they made. Your train of thought effects your train of actions, if you change one, you can change it all. I know, I've been there. I'm also guessing you are young because you totally ignored all of the common sense stuff NVS said to you. You didn't reply to any of it. You don't care about the consequences of your actions at all, your posts in threads over the past several days show that. |
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Aug 23 2008, 12:17 PM
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Nitrous Oxide Group: Active Members Posts: 582 Joined: 13-August 05 From: new port richey, florida Member No.: 1,911 Tiburon Year: Please Select Gender: Please Select
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QUOTE Man I also thought that it was you untill the end. That sucks ^ wtf is that supposed to mean? did you want me to get jumped? lol QUOTE I would have got in my truck and drove away as soon as it looked like it was going that bad. If they didn't move oh well too bad for them. ehhh in a crowded situation where tensions are high, this isn't a good option-... i was in a parking garage where someone backed into someone elses car-... the guy tried to flee and got caught in traffic leveing the garage-... they caught up with him on the bottom floor, bashed up his car-... even though he was stuck in traffic he again tried to flee (in his car) hit 3 cars (1 of which was my friend's) and ran over one of the guys who was bashing the car (killing him)-... he nearly killed both my friend and his girlfriend who were just trying to get into their car. QUOTE Steve01 it's RED ZMAN, not red z man. ^lmao sorry redz QUOTE i could only image that the guy who got kidnaped was a frail suburb guy who went racing in a hood part of town and ended up getting frailed out, in a part of town he shouldnt have been in. maybe i'm specualtion but thats how it sounds, hell untill you guys came with the news story i thought it was bullshit. that kind of thing wouldnt ever happen here. look at the map-... it's on the ouskirts of disney "the happiest place on earth". it looks to be in the middle of a woods-... hood, not so much. |
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